Can we make LUXURIOUS vegan cheese that rivals dairy with PISTACHIOS? Let’s discover out collectively on this 2nd installment of Will it Cheese?!, the collection impressed by conventional strategies of dairy cheese-making to push plant-based frontiers!
I’ll be:
- culturing entire pistachio milk AND strained pistachio milk
- fermenting the curds for extra time earlier than urgent (in comparison with the peanut episode)
- attempting 3 totally different salting strategies (salting curds, sprinkling vs salt crust)
All in an effort to seek out out if we will:
- skip the bodily effort of pulp removing?
- shorten the pistachio seeds to cheese timeline? Or create a sharper/higher taste?
- uncover the perfect salting methodology to stop mildew development with out making the cheese over-salted
And learn the way cultured dairy-free Pistachio Cheese truly tastes and feels. Plus, is it value it?
VIDEO: Will Pistachios Cheese?!
Why (or why not) attempt to make pistachios into cheese?
Sure, it’s fairly a departure from the inexpensive first installment of Will it Cheese?! which used peanuts. However after Will Pistachios Tofu?! was printed on YouTube, the remark part was clamoring for a cultured sequel. Plus, a pair viewers very kindly despatched Tremendous Thanks to purchase extra pistachios. So in fact, I needed to do it!

Pistachio Taste
Whereas roasted pistachios are undeniably wonderful, uncooked pistachios are additionally scrumptious. They remind me a little bit of pine nuts however milder and softer with a buttery, barely candy taste.
The explanation I take advantage of uncooked is to make sure the protein can coagulate, type curds, and turn into pressed right into a cheese-like block. I’ve already made “tofu” from pistachios beforehand and made a good mushy tofu that resembled cream cheese already; simply with out fermentation.
After I’ve used roasted nuts prior to now, the curds didn’t make a strong block however as an alternative resembled peanut butter. To not say I’m certain it will probably’t work to make cheese. However for this collection and with an ingredient as costly as pistachio, I’m going to play it safer.
Pistachio Diet
As you would possibly guess from the candy style of pistachios, they’re greater in carbs than our final contender, peanuts. However they’ve about the identical quantity of fats and simply barely much less protein. See chart under evaluating the macronutrients at 100g dry cashews, peanuts and pistachios.
Value of Pistachios
That mentioned, pistachios is probably not your first option to experiment with. For 1 kg (2.2 lbs) of uncooked, shelled pistachios, I paid $54.99 Canadian earlier than gross sales taxes. That’s $25 a pound! Or $18.44 USD at at the moment’s trade price.
Examine that to uncooked peanuts that are solely about $5 per pound.
And the vegan cheese darling, unroasted cashews, that are usually $10 to $13 per pound.
Pistachio Recollects
Another excuse to skip pistachios is that there’s a recall affecting pistachios and pistachio merchandise imported from Iran into Canada as a result of Salmonella contamination. Since July when the primary recall was introduced, extra manufacturers have been added as just lately as this month. Fortunately those I purchased haven’t been on the recall listing. I think about that attempting to make cheese from contaminated pistachios would make them much more harmful so it’s actually necessary to fastidiously examine your supply.
There was a separate recall for Pistachio cream within the US which isn’t associated.
The Pistachio Cheese Experiment: All my greatest intentions
With the pistachios funded by viewers, I needed to take advantage of this $55 value. The purpose was to observe the primary episode’s course of for probably the most half because it efficiently made scrumptious peanut cheeses. However with an additional variation: cheese created from the entire meals ingredient; not simply the milk.
Plus use the whey in a recipe. Recently, I’ve been marinating my tofu in leftover cashew yogurt whey, herbs and aromatics to scrumptious impact. (spoiler alert, this didn’t work out and it’s my very own fault!)
Lastly, I needed to make use of up the pulp ASAP. It’s solely good for about 3 days within the fridge and my freeze is already overflowing with plant-based milk pulps. (one other pretty intention)
Day Zero Prep
I ready for this experiment by soaking 800 grams of pistachios in a single day for the 2 deliberate batches of pistachio cheese. That may put every batch at $22 Canadian of elements to this point.

I additionally cleaned and sanitized the gear by boiling: spoons, bowls, spatulas, cheesecloths.
My favourite tofu presses (affiliate hyperlink) are plastic to allow them to’t be boiled (or a minimum of, I haven’t chanced it) so I cleaned them with cleaning soap and scorching water, allow them to dry, then sprayed with white vinegar, earlier than letting them air-dry once more.
I cleaned my blender as regular however didn’t hassle to sanitize. I figured that I’d pasteurize the milks and purees after the mixing step in any case.
Day 1: From Seeds to Milks to Inoculation
After the in a single day soak (about 14 hours), the drained pistachios weighed 1380 grams; they soaked up 580 mL or 72.5% of their authentic weight.

I divided them into 2 parts; 690g for entire pistachio milk and 690g for silkier, pulp-free pistachio milk.
Working in half batches of about 345g hydrated pistachios and including 690ml of contemporary faucet water every time, I blended them in my Vitamix at excessive pace.
For entire pistachio milk, I blended for 60 seconds per half batch after which poured the consequence immediately into a big cooking pot, filling it as much as the two.5 liter mark (about ⅔ gallon).
The entire pistachio milk was so easy and creamy. I may barely see any grit from the pistachio fiber. This was giving me hope that perhaps we may skip the straining step for future episodes!🤞

As for the style take a look at, the uncooked entire pistachio milk was
- foamy and thick
- robust uncooked pistachio taste
- not feeling like an excellent consuming plant-based milk however not completely disagreeable both
Only for enjoyable, I calculated the value of this uncooked entire pistachio milk: $2.09 per cup (237ml or 8 oz)
For the pulp-free milk, I blended for less than 25 seconds per half batch and poured these by my soymilk filter bag to pressure out the pulp.
It was not practically as straightforward to pressure in comparison with uncooked peanut milk. So after 5 minutes of regular effort, my palms have been shaking however the jade-green milk was easy and exquisite.

The quantity of pulp-free milk was a lot lower than the entire (about 2 liters or a ½ gallon). Is sensible once we obtained about 2 cups of pulp out. The pulp was saved within the freezer for later use.
Upon tasting the pulp-free pistachio milk, my style buds have been handled to
- silky and creamy milk with out foaminess,
- flippantly sweet-tasting uncooked pistachio taste
- clean-feeling end
Ignoring any worth from pulp, the price of elements for pulp-free pistachio milk could be $2.60 per cup (237ml of 8oz).
Dang! No marvel I cherished it a lot; I’ve costly style. It was very refreshing and I’d’ve cherished to maintain it that means for consuming. However the cheese should go on!
Cooking the pistachio milks
Individually, each variations of pistachio milk have been heated to a simmer. The variations between the 2 have been quick and apparent.
As they warmed up and the starch within the pistachio milk began to gel, each milks turned thicker.
However the entire pistachio milk was a lot thicker. Because it approached the simmering stage, it was so thick that it started spitting violently; like simmering thick tomato sauce. I attempted utilizing the pot lid as a protect whereas persevering with to stir, scraping the underside with my flat ended spatula to keep away from the milk getting burnt on the backside.

As with many different seed milks that you simply’ve seen in Will it Tofu?!, pistachio milk self-coagulates. I seen the visible separation of curds from whey at 180°F or 82°C. The warmth together with one thing innate within the pistachio milks allowed the proteins to alter and clump collectively.
Ultimately, the flying scorching gasps of thick pistachio milk turned too harmful for me to stir by so I lowered the warmth and coated the pot with the lid, and let it simmer for a couple of minutes whereas hoping for the perfect. AKA no burning.
A couple of minutes later, I turned off the warmth to disclose the coagulated mass. The feel was like over-scrambled eggs from a lodge breakfast buffet. Very thick, little or no separated whey.
Upon tasting the entire pistachio curds, it had the slight graininess of additional yolky over-scrambled eggs. Or fairly just like the chickpea scrambled egg experiment I did final 12 months. Although the flavour was pistachio; delicate and nutty.

I set the coagulated entire pistachio milk apart to chill. Whereas the opposite milk obtained the identical remedy.
The pulp-free pistachio milk thickened however not practically as a lot because the earlier model. It was simply thick sufficient to coat the spatula.
Because it crossed 180°F (82°C), it began to separate into tiny curds floating in creamy whey.
After it got here to a boil, I adjusted the warmth to let the pulp-free milk vigorously simmer for five minutes in hopes of getting the utmost quantity of curds to type. Beforehand on Will Pistachios Tofu?!, I had tried utilizing calcium sulphate and vinegar to extract extra curds from the milk. Sadly neither helped to extend the yield.

Afterwards, we have now a pot stuffed with small curds and the whey was nonetheless translucent a lot nearer to clear.
The pulp-free curds had a stronger unroasted pistachio taste with a easy and wealthy mouthfeel. Pleasant!
Each pots of curds have been too scorching. I needed them under 110°F however nonetheless heat earlier than including probiotics. So I allow them to cool outdoors within the Calgary winter air for about 40 minutes. I additionally stirred them every now and then so they may calm down evenly.
Inoculation: Including Probiotics
For this experiment, I made a decision on utilizing probiotic capsules that I already had in my fridge. To be particular, I used Real Well being model Superior Intestine Well being Probiotic with 15 billion CFU’s per capsule. I didn’t purchase them particularly for cheese-making; simply had them readily available.

Beforehand in Will Peanuts Cheese?! I used the identical probiotic model however that variation had 50 billion CFU’s per capsule. So this time, I used 4 capsules per batch (15 x 4 = 60).
After I introduced the Entire Pistachio Curds inside, they have been 109°F. I opened the gel capsules and sprinkled within the contents, stirring nicely between additions.
I waited some time longer for the Pulp-Free Pistachio Curds they usually have been 98°F (37°C) by the point I obtained them indoors. I added the identical variety of capsules, stirring very nicely.

Then it was time to attend. The pots sat
- with lids on,
- at room temperature 71°-75°F (22°-24°C)
- with none insulation nor added warmth supply
Day 2: First Fermentation
18 ½ hours later at 8:45 AM, I gave them each a style take a look at. They have been each noticeably tangy. If I used to be making a yummy Greek yogurt for mixing with berries and snacking, the tang degree was adequate. That’s, bitter however not overly so.
Maybe as a result of I used extra capsules (and an estimated 5 billion extra CFU’s per batch) It was already very bitter. I’d evaluate it to the sourness of the fermented peanut curds simply earlier than I transferred the curds to the press within the earlier episode of Will it Cheese?! That batch was fermented at room temperature for about 32 hours and refrigerated for about 10 hours.
However this time, I needed to see if I may pace up the cheese ageing course of by extending the primary fermentation of curds earlier than urgent.
So I changed the lids and waited yet another day.
Day 3: Style and Press
The subsequent day at 11 AM, at 44 ½ hours after the preliminary inoculation, I gave them one other take a look at. This time the curds had the cheek-puckering sourness I hoped for.
The entire pistachio curds have been lots firmer than earlier than with extra visible whey separation. Nonetheless had a gentle however distinct pistachio taste and ever-so-slight grainy however nonetheless creamy mouthfeel.

The pulp-free pistachio curds tasted much more bitter with that tang overwhelming the palate so the pistachio taste was nicely hidden. The feel didn’t appear to alter.
With the fermented curd style checks out of the way in which, it was time to press!
Urgent Fermented Pistachio Curds
I used my favourite tofu presses lined with cheesecloths that I had sanitized by boiling, then hung to dry.
Urgent Fermented Pulp-free Pistachio Curds
The drained pulp-free curds crammed up the primary press to a top of about 2 inches earlier than urgent. Then I added the spring-loaded lid and twisted the dial so as to add extra strain.
The surplus whey was poured out and I used to be capable of save about 900ml (practically a quart) of probiotic-filled whey. The flavour was shiny with mouth-puckering sourness and a touch of nuttiness.
Urgent Fermented Entire Pistachio Curds
I crammed up the second tofu press with the fermented entire pistachio curds however there was nonetheless lots left. In the meantime, little or no whey was extracted in comparison with the pulp-free curds
Fermented Entire Pistachio Curds with 2% Salt
With the remaining 780g of entire pistachio curds, I needed so as to add 2% salt. However to make sure the salt could be nicely distributed, I dissolved the 15 grams of salt into 85 ml of heat water first.

After stirring within the salt answer very nicely, I crammed up the third and final tofu press.
I added the urgent lid however this time, I didn’t drain off the salty whey.
Then all three tofu presses (now cheese presses by operate) went into the fridge (now Thursday 12:30 PM). I needed the curds to agency up and it simply made sense to me that they do this in a chilly atmosphere. However trying again, I’m unsure that was the proper choice.
Day 7: Unwrapping Recent Cultured Pistachio Cheeses
I meant to unwrap the cheese on day 4. However life obtained in the way in which because it does typically and I figured the cheeses have been most likely protected and sound within the fridge.
That following Monday, I spotted I used to be flawed.
There was extra whey to pour out from the presses so I added to every corresponding container and tasted to see how the flavors advanced.

Whey Style Assessments
Pulp-Free Pistachio Whey: shiny, bitter with citrus, guava, pineapple and melon notes.
Entire Pistachio Whey (unsalted): much more bitter with funky tacky undertones, solely slight fruity notes
Entire Pistachio Whey with salt: overwhelmingly salty with cheek-puckering tang; no fruit detected
Apparently, none jogged my memory of pistachio in any respect. The fruity whey tasted like it might make an incredible drink blended with some tea or fruit juice. I felt the unsalted entire pistachio whey might be saved for inoculating future batches of plant-based milk to make yogurt or cheese. And the salted whey may make a terrific tofu marinade.
Nevertheless these goals have been dashed once I unwrapped the pistachio cheese blocks one by one and noticed darkish discoloration on each block.
Recent Cultured Pistachio Cheeses Revealed!

The pulp-free model had a little bit of discoloration upon the primary reveal. And it was current on all sides too.
The salted entire pistachio model had somewhat extra.
And the unsalted entire pistachio cheese had probably the most.
It appeared to me that:
- 3 days within the fridge was too lengthy
- cleansing the tofu presses with cleaning soap and water then sanitizing with vinegar spray was not efficient sufficient. Maybe I’ll attempt my steel press subsequent time which could be sanitized with boiling water.
- Or if I wish to proceed with the plastics then press for a lot much less time within the fridge as a result of:
- chilly temperature inhibited this mix of probiotics (chosen for human use, not chilly fermenting cheese) which can have allowed for undesirable microbe development
- Or attempt urgent for a shorter time at room temperature (I’d use a way more inexpensive ingredient to do this variation)
including salt at 2% does inhibit undesirable microbe development however not sufficient
I feel I can safely assume the discoloration was as a result of undesirable microbe development. So having contaminated all of the clear whey with whey from the presses, I not felt protected to make use of the whey once more.
Recent Pistachio (Cream) Cheese Outcomes
I trimmed a skinny layer from all sides of every block to take away all of the discoloration. Fortunately it was solely on the floor; the cheese beneath was nonetheless good!

Pulp-Free Recent Pistachio Cheese: Sharp and tacky with a background of delicate pistachio nuttiness. Very scrumptious and easy; I’d love this on a toasted bagel!
I’d additionally like to see how this may do in a cheesecake BUT I haven’t experimented with cultured cheese in vegan cheesecake but. So I wish to get a working recipe down with a cheaper ingredient first, then circle again to it. Maybe for a vacation particular? Let me know in the event you’d be down for that.
The one factor not cheese-like is there’s a second texture within the cheese. Like pumpkin seeds and hemp seeds, the protein coagulated into two textures. The primary texture is easy and creamy. However the second texture is meaty, chewy and stringy. It’s a tiny share of the block however it’s there. I’m wondering if that may easy out after ageing for an extended time.
After trimming, it was 316 grams.
Entire Recent Pistachio Cheese (unsalted): Tangy and with delicate however distinct pistachio taste. A little bit of a grainy or paste-like high quality; not as easy as dairy cheese. After trimming, it was 362 grams.
Entire Recent 2% Salted Pistachio Cheese: Effectively seasoned however not overly salty with the identical tang as earlier than it went into the fridge and a bit extra funky taste. Like the opposite entire pistachio cheese, it has a barely grainy or paste-like mouthfeel to it however not disagreeable. Having began with a smaller quantity of curds going into the press, after trimming, it was 284 grams.
The contemporary pistachio cheeses had the consistency of very thick cream cheese however the pulp-free was easy on one other degree. Regardless of eager to eradicate the step of straining milk, I’ve to confess, it’s higher included. Going ahead, I’ll proceed eradicating the pulps in future installments of Will it Cheese?!
Pretty much as good as these cultured cream cheeses tasted, I needed to see how they may change with drying and ageing.
Salting Cheeses for Drying & Getting older
I solely had coarse kosher salt so I ran it by my spice grinder to make it finer. Then sprinkled it on all sides of the Entire Cultured Pistachio Cheese with 2% salt.
Then I had the good concept of placing down a layer of salt onto a plate, then urgent the perimeters of the remaining cheeses to get a extra even layer.

Was it an excessive amount of salt? After my earlier “sporific” occasions, I didn’t wish to take possibilities. An excessive amount of salt is best than somewhat undesirable mildew in my thoughts.
After salting, I laid them on sterilized bamboo sushi rolling mats. I’ve learn that bamboo has anti-bacterial properties which is why I selected them particularly.
Dehydrating VS Air-drying at room temperature
In Will Peanuts Cheese?!, I dried one half at room temperature and the opposite within the dehydrator set to 100°F (38°C). As you may think about, the dehydrator model had nice benefits. The flavour developed a lot quicker, the feel was extra agency, and it made managing the timeline of cheese-making a lot simpler.
The variations have been sufficient to persuade me the dehydrator is an important a part of the vegan cheese-maker’s kitchen. This (under) is the second dehydrator I’ve owned and I actually find it irresistible.
So for this costly experiment, I made a decision to take much less possibilities and put all three within the machine.

Provided that the probiotics I used have been designed to go inside people, I set the temperature to 98°F (36.7°C); the everyday regular physique temperature.
Day 8: After One Day Dehydrating
It was 22 hours later that I checked on the pistachio cheeses. That they had visually shrunk, have been a lot firmer to the contact and smelled flippantly tacky!

I disregarded the salt as greatest as I may. Below the cheeses with thick salt crusts, the bigger faces have been somewhat moist. Surprisingly, it appeared that the salt crust truly slowed down the drying course of.
Entire One-Day Dehydrated 2% Salted Pistachio Cheese – firmest out of all of the cheeses. It was too salty at first style however after the preliminary salty shock, I may style the pistachio nuttiness and tangy cheesiness. The feel was much less creamy and easy; extra crumbly and brittle.
I feel it’s dry sufficient however I wish to see how the flavour modifications after yet another day within the dehydrator. Chilly ageing may lead to totally different flavors so I put half in a container, not fairly air-tight, to examine on the following day as nicely.
Entire One-Day Dehydrated Pistachio Cheese (plain) – Not as agency. I don’t know if that’s as a result of the earlier cheese was salted all through. Or if the salt crust was actually slowing down the moisture evaporation.
It positively absorbed quite a lot of salt as a result of the cheese was well-seasoned all through. Past the saltiness, it was sharp and funky with a slight floral be aware. The pistachio taste was truly much less noticeable on this one. And it had an identical crumbly texture as the opposite Entire Pistachio Cheese.
For the half going again into the dehydrator, I salted solely half of the reduce facet to see how the unsalted facet would truthful. I puzzled, ‘Might I skip this re-salting step subsequent time?’
Pulp-Free One-Day Dehydrated Pistachio Cheese – The firmness was a bit between the opposite two with a bouncier high quality. The feel was easy and creamy, corresponding to cheddar cheese. The flavour had developed lots from the day earlier than. At this stage, it was extra pistachio-forward whereas brightened with tacky sharpness. Because the chew melted in my mouth, the ending notes of milk, butter and cheddar emerged. Unimaginable; worthy of an unique plant-based cheese get together!

As with the others, I positioned half the cheese in a container for the fridge and half went again within the dehydrator.

I’d think about all of them “Cheese Board Prepared” at this level! The Entire Pistachio and Pulp-Free Cheese have delicate variations in taste so I really feel all are value attempting out. However in the event you may solely select one, I’d suggest the Pulp-Free Pistachio Cheese.
Day 9: Two-Day Dehydrator Cheeses VS Chilled Cheeses
The subsequent day, 22 ½ hours after the cheeses went into the dehydrator for the 2nd time, it was time for the ultimate style take a look at! I reduce the perimeters from all of the tasting slices to take away among the salt and actually style the inside.

2 day Aged Cheeses Flavour Desk
| Flavour Notes for: | 2 day dehydrated | 1 day dehydrated, 1 day refrigerated |
| Pulp-Free Cheese | Clean, creamy, that considerably melts within the mouth. Sharper than the day earlier than, very umami. Buttery and cheddar end however no floral this time. A bit too salty. | Gentle pistachio nuttiness, mellow sharpness and buttery, cheddar-like end. Trace of rosewater aftertaste. Not too salty. Clean and creamy. |
| Entire Pistachio Cheese | Prime be aware is floral/rose and outstanding amongst the sharp funk and tanginess. | Funkier taste with a pepper be aware. No buttery/cheddar end however has the trace of floral too. Wealthy however can detect the superb pulp. |
| Entire Pistachio Cheese w/ 2% salt at curds + whey stage | Salt has mellowed a bit, tang has modified to be extra fruity. End is not floral however has a really delicate Chen Pi (Chinese language dried orange peel) aroma. | Very salty however the funk nonetheless shines by. Pepper and floral notes current. |
Firmness & Saltiness
All three cheeses from the dehydrator obtained even firmer. That made all of them style a bit saltier too. The truth is, there was no visible distinction on the reduce finish that had one half salted and one half plain so I feel subsequent time, I can’t re-salt the cheeses for day 2.
The Pulp-Free was nonetheless the winner with extra buttery notes expressing themselves. Every one was simply subtly higher! The sharp and funky flavors appeared to meld collectively extra harmoniously.
Afterwards, I saved all of the cheeses in air-tight containers within the fridge. It’s been about 6 days for the reason that shoot they usually’ve all maintained the flavour from the ultimate style take a look at. The moisture has equalized; all of them turned barely moist on the contact on the outsides. So I wrapped them in parchment paper a pair days in the past. If there are extra updates to share as they modify, I’ll replace right here.
Conclusion
I actually hate to say it. The most costly vegan cheese I’ve ever made has turned out to be the perfect. Notably the pulp-free Pistachio Cheese aged within the dehydrator for two days and which solely took a complete of 10 days to make and age from soak to complete. The mixture of creamy easy texture, distinct pistachio nuttiness, notes of butter and cheddar set off by the mellow tang is a must-try! It’s value it!

After I evaluate it to dairy cheese, aren’t the best-tasting funky cheeses simply as costly? That’s what I’ll hold telling myself as I add extra pistachios to my purchasing cart.
As for salting, the perfect methodology was to maintain the curds plain earlier than urgent, then urgent all sides into salt for even protection. Nevertheless, subsequent time, I would take additional care to brush off the surplus.
Lastly, an incredible huge THANK YOU to the viewers who donated Tremendous Thanks within the earlier Will Pistachios Tofu?! video. My low-cost butt would’ve by no means dedicated to purchasing and utilizing $55 value of Pistachios for this tacky experiment.
Additionally thank YOU for studying this to the tip. Your curiosity in these experiments inspire me to maintain going!
What elements ought to I attempt in future episodes of Will it Cheese?! And what different cheese-making strategies would you want me to attempt?
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